The wiki contains information about sources that post here and information for people new to the board. We encourage our members to look over this information before making their first purchase. Also, if you are new to steroids in general, we ask that you head over to /r/Steroids (where source talk is not allowed) and take advantage of their great resources BEFORE using our board. Please come back when you are sure youhave at least a basic understanding on questions about the use or effects of these products.
Please note that NONE of this information should be construed as the mods vouching for a specific source. The moderators will never vouch for thequality/reliability/trustworthiness/etc of any source. We merely provide you with the environment and resources to make these determinations yourself.
Source InformationBecoming a source
Becoming a source on SST is a fairly simple process and begins with you contacting the mod staff at “email@example.com.” An application will be given upon inquiry with our requirements. Acceptance to source on the board is not guaranteed. As we are not a sponsor board we will look at things such as community need and safety, application data, etc. It is at 100% mod discretion to add or deny any source to service the users on SST.Source Verification Process
All verification must be done via a long-standing member of this community. Bloodwork provided to the sub will verify a source so long as the thread is not deleted and can be linked-to in the future for newcomers to be able to see first hand that the source did have bloods posted. Deleted threads don't do any good if they can't be found later. Labmax is not accepted on SST. A ratio of 3:1 of good:bad bloods is required to be maintained to achieve and hold onto "verified" status. New sources must achieve 6 month’s time on the board and this ratio to move from “Unverified” to “Verified.”
Tren that shows e2 that is clearly (>200) out of range on a Roche ECLIA test may also be counted at the mods’ discretion. Sources will be granted +1/-1 flair for qualifying bloodwork.
In regards to giveaways, users should be wary of gear given to them specifically for testing. An eager source may want to become verified as quickly as possible, and that's okay. But it is entirely possible a source has given you gear that is properly/over-dosed while selling everyone else bunk products. Any verification that was done with free gear will be looked at with scrutiny.Requests for Information from Sources
While we encourage all users to assert their discretion when ordering from new sources, we will not tolerate the berating of sources by members to provide images of equipment, stock, or their production environment. We aim to strike a balance between vetting of potential sources, protection of the community, and respect for the OPSEC of all. The moderation team makes an effort to inquire about production and verify any claims, equipment, and stock, often beyond reasonable expectation. This should give our users some degree of assurance that their interests with regards to safety are being taken into consideration, while we also seek to ensure that sources do not have to reveal any more information about their operation than necessary.
SST has consistently connected dozens of high-quality, reliable, and long lasting sources with its user base. While the nature of the subject matter can certainly attract fly-by-night operations, we believe that we possess and employ the required safety mechanisms to catch and deter low quality sources before they ever reach our community.
Curiosity is neither discouraged nor forbidden, however we ask that members yield to the discretion of sources as to how much information they wish to share about their operation. Should sources wish to disclose certain information, or submit proof of equipment and stock to their prospective customer base, they may always do so. However in the interest of security, we will not allow for these inquiries to degrade into mudslinging should sources deny such requests. If users have immediate concerns we ask that they forward them to the moderator team at firstname.lastname@example.org as soon as they are able. We will be in touch as needed.
Reviews that do not conform to this format and contain all of the relevant information pursuant to the guidelines listed below will be ignored. Users who continually tag a mod in non-conforming bloodwork (i.e. more than once) will receive a ban of varying length depending on the level of idiocy.Criteria
Account posting the bloodwork for verification needs to be >2 months old and active in the community. No exceptions
Bloodwork posted needs to be less than a month old, any longer and it will not becounted (but will only add to the community knowledge base).
Time for blood to be drawn:
Test P & A 12-24 hours after last pin. You need to not have been on any long esters for 3 weeks before hand and you need to have been on Test P/A for minimum 3 weeks.
Test E 36-48 hours after last pin. You need to be on for at least 5 weeks.
Test C 48-60 hours after last pin. You need to be on for at least 5 weeks. Test U 7-10 days after last pin.
Right before your weekly pin is acceptable (~7 days since last pin) if you are pinning Test U on a weekly basis. The half life is 33.9 +/- 4.9 days if in castor oil preparation. You need to be on for at least 15 weeks.
Growth Hormone: 10iu's needs to be pinned IM 3 hours before blood draw and no heavy physical activity in that period
Test needs to show EXACT total testosterone detected, not >1500. If a user is running a gram and it turns up 7,000 testosterone or 1,501 the results will be exactly the same and useless for determining the quality of the product. If a user is on a cruise dose (i.e. <=150mg/wk) and a capped test is able to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the testosterone is good, the mods may or may not count it at their discretion. If these guidelines are not followed, the bloodwork cannot be used for verification. Users may view the bloodwork however they see fit but the moderators will not use it to verify the source.
Provided the bloods were drawn according to the timetable above, the test multiplier (test levels in ng/dl divided by weekly dose of test in mg) needs to be above 4.3x to count as good blood work. Test multipliers below 4x will be counted as bad bloodwork. Test levels between 4x and 4.3x will be omitted as they are in the category of being either a possibly poor responder or underdosed/impure test with no good way to tell which is which. Prior blood work may be taken into account (i.e. if a user has gotten bloodwork 5 times and consistently converts at a 4x multiplier from pharma test andvarious SST source’s test, then this will not be counted as bad bloodwork) at the discretion of the mods.
Special cases: AUS bloods are typically capped by nature and will be considered withthis in mind.Bloodwork Post Formatting
The standard bloodwork post rules are below in order for the source to get credit. If these parameters aren’t met, the source can’t receive credit and, up to the source’s discretion, may not grant you any store credit offered.
- The user must be at least 2 months old with active post history
- Title of post format example: Fusion Labs Test E 500mg/ week 2500ng/dl 5x
- Table template from other stickied thread must be used. All boxes must be filled in.
- Capped bloods typically do not qualify. Mod discretion here, for a cruise dose or higher than usual cap.
Template, Copy everything as is below:| Link to Bloodwork | Insert Image Link Here |
| --- | --- |
| Source | Tag Source Here |
| Test Ester Running | Cypionate, Enanthate, Propionate |
| Weekly Testosterone Dose (mg) | Mg |
| Other Compounds in Cycle | Insert anything else in cycle |
| Weekly Dose Other Compounds (mg) | Mg |
| Weeks Run | Enter Number of Weeks |
| Draw Time from Last Pin | Insert Hours from last pin to draw |
| Blood Results | |
| Testosterone Reading in ng/dl | ng/dl |
| Testosterone Multiplier | Reading/weekly dose |
| Test Capped at 1500? | Yes or No |
| Estrogen (E2) Reading pg/ml | pg/ml |
| Liver/Lipids Elevated? | Yes or No |
| Anything Else Goes Below | |
| Blood Thicker than Yogurt pls help, Why am I still smol? | |
- Sources are required to read the Source Rule page in its entirety BEFORE posting.
- Shilling is strictly forbidden. Anyone found to be shilling will be banned. Inversely, anyone repeatedly attacking a source without reason will be banned at moderator discretion.
- Keep it civil. Temporary bans will be handed out at the discretion of the moderators. If you create another account to circumvent this or continue your behavior after the ban, you will be permanently banned.
- Please refrain from posting anything negative if you are unaware of the subject at hand or are potentially giving out false information. Under no circumstances should a source be falsely accused of scamming or otherwise, if you believe something may be occurring please bring it to the Mods attention first!
- Share the wealth.
- Do not discuss or post images of a source's stealth methods.
- Put SERIOUS EFFORT into using this Wiki and search bar before making a post. Your question has probably already been asked or can easily be answered with a little research. Bans WILL be handed out for this kind of laziness cluttering the board.
- Do not post threads asking about research chemical companies. Their batches can be unreliable/inconsistent and should not be trusted for AI or SERMs. Thereare plenty of pharma grade sources here. Use outside RC companies at your own risk, but do not ask about them here. Your thread will be deleted.
- You must be at least 18 years of age to use this forum. Violators will receive a permaban.
- No personal information should ever be posted by anyone ever. Users who break this rule will be perma-banned. Sources will be perma-banned and blacklisted and will never be allowed back.
- Refrain from asking about DNP. 99% of DNP related posts will get deleted. Violators will get a +5 day ban
- There is zero-tolerance policy regarding solicitation through private messages (PM).
- Childish name-calling, keyboard warriors, dick-measuring, riot inciting, witch hunting, tinfoil h'austists, ect. will all receive bans of commensurate length. Bullshit will not be tolerated. (Note: This is one of the reasons why PM’s are currently not enabled)
- Users will not be permitted to sell or trade their stock to other users. Don't even ask to sell or receive others’ gear.
- You can communicate with mods through tagging them, reporting the post, or through modmail for more private matters. email@example.com
As rule 2 states, shilling will result in a ban. This is at the discretion of the moderator team. This will not only result in the banning of the shill but also the source they are shilling for. Sources, this means that if you see someone pushing your line very hard, you should make a public attempt to temper their enthusiasm. That means that if we see an account pushing nothing but source A in every thread and saying how great it is, we will take that as you being on source A's payroll and ban you and blacklist the source. Maybe this seems heavy-handed, but we really don't care. This sub was created to help people talk about sources and to review them. It was not created for the purpose of helping sources to make money. Pushing members in the direction of a particular source is discouraged and will not be tolerated. That also means trying to dissuade members from a particular source as well, or in other words, trying to sabotage a source. If that happens the offending account will be banned.Lodging a Complaint
Making baseless accusations about a source’s potency/legitimacy or claiming scam without following the appropriate avenues of communication to seek recompense will result in a permanent ban. There are two appropriate avenues for seeking the moderator’s help in contacting a source or rectifying an order issue. Before either avenue is pursued, it is expected that the customer reaches out to the source directly to attempt to remedy the issue first. When you communicate with a source in a concise and polite manner, you are more likely to not only receive the outcome you wish, but expedite the process. Sources often deal with dozens of email chains and communications a day, and replying out of chain with minimal information just adds to the time it takes for them to find your order and correct the issue. If you’re being a dick on top of that, they may take their sweet time at best or refuse to do further business with you at worst. Some sources are known to go above and beyond, but this is not expected. Sources are just regular people, they don’t operate some big box business with the ability to respond instantaneously at all hours of the day and ship every order immediately.
If attempting to politely reach out to the source yields no response or attempt at remediation, it is advised that you contact the moderator team directly at firstname.lastname@example.org with all appropriate previous chains of communication and relevant information regarding the order and issue. Private communications with the mod team are preferred to promote community and source safety, as well as aiding in any complaint aggregation that may be needed.
Alternatively you may seek more public remediation, in which case you may create an appropriate source complaint thread in the “Source Complaint” subforum following proper post formatting and guidelines (found below). Only open a new thread if you have a source complaint against a specific source that DOES NOT ALREADY have a thread open about them. Do not open threads asking about a source’s legitimacy or potency, or threads about anything other than a complaint thread about a specific source.Source Complaint Rules
- Only one thread per source. Do not make new threads for sources that already have a thread or you will be banned.
- Keep it civil
- Do not make any thread unrelated to source complaints. If you are making a new thread, it had better not be something autistic like ‘Hurr durr, does XXX Labs have any issues right now”. Read the thread regarding XXX Labs.
- Format post titles as “[Source Complaint] XXX Labs (Month/Day/Year)
- Please refrain from spreading bullshit, stick to things like T/A time, communications, product quality, etc.
- Do not create any threads that are not [Source Complaint] threads
- Do not expose a source’s stealth
If you see that a source is having sales all the time stop and think for a second. How can a business thrive if it is constantly undercutting themselves out of a profit? Are they just trying to establish their name and win new customers or are they trying to make as many quick sales and take off with as much money as possible? Also, remember the type of business these guys and yourself are engaged in, it isn't exactly legal everywhere and that leads to unscrupulous individuals taking advantage of naive people. It's never a bad thing to ask for more information about a business before you send them money, maybe you want pictures of lab settings, pictures of products ready to ship, or maybe you want to see some test results. Most honest businesses will happily oblige at least some of these requests. Never forget, you should never spend more than you are prepared to lose on a new source, no matter how much other people rant and rave about how great they are.A Special Note On Research Chemical Companies
RC companies are inherently hit or miss. They are sometimes great and at other times complete bunk. There are a plethora of mixed reviews on this sub for all the research companies that you can imagine, from board sponsor RC companies like RUI to companies like Madison James Research. Sometimes a person is extremely happy with their products, and sometimes a person relies on them for AI or whatnot and winds up with gyno. Because of this instability in the RC market, no one on the moderator team feels that you should rely on them for important chemicals and you should instead seek out pharma grade usp, generics, or at least UGL meds. I personally, /u/the_Iibrarian, feel like you would be better served by seeking out your meds on ADC or clearsky, but that's just my opinion. As such, inquiries as per the legitimacy of these RC sites, such as "is (insert your favourite RC site here)'s adex/asin/clen/nolva/clomid/whatthefuckeverg2g?", the answer should always be "no, use it at your own risk", and the inquiring party should be directed here to the wiki.
FAQ/ResourcesHow do I order?
No transactions are to take place through SST, this is one of the multiple reasons why we do not allow private messaging (PMs) on our board. To properly open a line of communication with a source, you will need to create either a Protonmail account or Tutanota email account. These accounts offer end to end encryption, meaning that messages you send from Proton to Proton, or Tutanota to Tutanota, will be encrypted. Please use the same service as the source is that you intend to use (consider making both). Some sources have their own websites with internally encrypted communications, often these sources also offer an encrypted email address to send communications to.
Before you navigate to the website and select ‘sign up’, you can create a fresh recovery email such as Gmail, Yahoo, etc. to attach to your encrypted email. Activating two-factor authentication (2FA) on all your accounts is highly recommended. It is also highly recommended to use an email address unassociated with your community name. This makes it extremely easy for you to be phished by a third party and is a frequent origin for scams by individuals pretending to be the legitimate source.
After creating an encrypted email, you are ready to open a line of communication withyour source. DOUBLE CHECK YOUR CONTACT EMAIL. As stated above, it is common for scammers to attempt to intercept your payment to the source by using avery similar contact email to the source. Always double-check contact address when opening a line of communication with a source, AND when sending payment.
Unless otherwise stated in the source thread, the typical appropriate correspondence goes as - Your Order > Source Confirms Order & Total / Payment address > You Send Payment/Blockchain Confirmation/Shipping Information > Source Confirms Payment receipt and Shipping Information. Email communications will typically cease at this point unless there is an issue. (See below for follow up)
Tracking/Customs Seizures & Order FollowupTracking
After an order is placed, due to opsec and individual operation it is typically up to a source whether they will send you tracking information or not. If you reside within the US, it is advised you sign up for USPS Informed Delivery. When a label is created for your address, the website will update and give shipping information according to USPS scans. If you’ve ordered international and the source has provided you tracking information, many community members opt for 17track.
Please remember that all tracking is subject to the package actually being scanned. If it’s a busy time of the year (Christmas, Chinese New Year, a pandemic), the package may not be scanned but still be moving to you.
Many questions can be posed about letters sent by customs regarding seizures. Typically, you’ll not have an issue if ordering domestically. If you do have a pack seized, it can take a few weeks to receive a letter notifying you, or you may never even receive one at all. You may see in tracking the package being held up for an extended period oftime at customs, and it still arrives perfectly. You may even receive a pack that looks beat to shit with a handwritten love letter on it without any prior notification because customs are monsters and the only thing they are consistent at is being inconsistent and scaring the shit out of everyone.
What a custom seizure letter (love letter) means can be a variety of things but the bottom line is that there is an inherent risk involved with ordering illegal drugs off the black market, and this is one of them. If you’re ordering an amount of gear or raws for personal use, the cause for concern is minimal. History shows that LE is rarely concerned with the end-user, and the package contents are only yours if you claim them. Anyone can send you anything if they have your name and address. Deny, deny, deny. The decision to continue ordering internationally after a seizure notification is entirely individual and situational, and only you can make that decision.
The seizure letter will likely prompt you for a response should you choose to contest the seizure, obviously ignore this. If the source you’re using has a reshipping policy, take a picture of the seizure letter and toss the letter.Order Followup
Once your order has been placed and the payment confirmed, communications with the source are typically ended. It is advised that you ‘set and forget’, as prodding the source for daily updates on your order will only serve to slow them down at best and irritate them enough to ignore you or stop doing business with you at worst. Be patient, many sources offer an estimated T/A on their source thread, and many community members regularly update T/A in the T/A subforum. Use this information to gauge whether or not there is a legitimate need to contact the source individually. Sometimes a logistic issue, life issue, or other issues may arise that are addressed publicly that will satiate the same questions you’re looking to have answered. Please use common sense and allavailable resources to help expedite your order and improve your experience with your source.Crypto, Western Union, Moneygram
The first step in being able to purchase crypto currency is to have a wallet. A wallet is where you will store your purchased crypto, and where you’ll use to make payment should you choose to use crypto. There are a few different types of wallets, but for the sake of basics we’ll just stick to web based wallets that can contain Bitcoin. When picking a wallet, ensure the wallet holds the crypto currency you wish to use and that your source accepts (Ethereum, BTC, Lite Coin, etc.). Web based wallets such as Electrum are extremely popular as you are not chained to a physical device such as a USB key, and the wallet can easily be accessed from multiple devices as long as you retain your seed. Other options such as Cashapp and Coinbase exist that serve as a wallet and marketplace, allowing you to complete most of your transaction in one location. It is growing increasingly difficult to purchase cryptocurrency completely anonymously, though it is still possible through peer to peer exchanges.
If you do not wish to use a wallet linked below or your own, you may use the ‘official’ wallet selector tool from Bitcoin to explore additional options.
After creating a wallet that can hold the desired currency, you’re ready to purchase crypto. Depending on the wallet and platform you choose, you should see the ability to ‘send’ and ‘receive’ crypto. The address that you receive from a source, and the address that you see when clicking ‘receive’ will not be the same for each transaction, and will need to be reattained each time you wish to make a new transaction. IE, each time you want to purchase crypto you will need to come back to your wallet and use the new wallet address that has been generated, and the payment address you receive from the source will be unique each time. Always double check these addresses and verify the email from the source which you are about to send payment to.
Many crypto currency markets exist from which you may purchase crypto, and all will require varying degrees of verification of identity and thus most are currently regulated by the government in some capacity. Some members choose to ‘wash’ their crypto fromthe original wallet they received it from into another wallet, but this is up to you and your individual security preferences (though this is HIGHLY recommended when using a wallet attached to a marketplace, such as Cashapp). Currently, most markets will require you to submit a picture ID and photo verification that you are the person on the ID that is creating the marketplace account. It may take up to a few days to verify your account on the marketplace you wish to use, so create your account in advance. These marketplaces are often the most ‘fair’ in terms of fees, but all vary in their cost so besure to check. BTC ATM’s offer a more anonymous form of purchasing crypto, but anymore these ATMs still use cameras to record who is at the ATM, even if they don’t require you submit some form of identification or sign up with your cell phone. ATM’s also tend to hold very steep transaction fees. A link to a few different marketplaces and a crypto ATM locator can be found below.
- https://agoradesk.com/(one of the last anonymous Peer 2 Peer exchanges)
Users are advised to be wary of sources that use vanilla reload cards for payment. Vanilla Reload cards are not a very safe form of payment for sources, as they can be traced back to the source. LE can simply send a source one of these cards and wait to see where it was used. So if you see somebody claiming to be a source using these cards, ask yourself this "Why would this source willingly put themselves at risk?" After all, LE isn't going to hunt down somebody that isn't even selling drugs.
Do not under any circumstances allude to any sort of product purchase when sending payment via Western Union or Money Gram. NONE. Not even, "oh I'm buying cake". You are not BUYING anything, you're helping out a crippled kid with knobbed knees and no ID who needs surgery.
Don't use a fake or assumed name on the money form. If shit goes wrong (your error, clerk error) you just lost your money and you are not getting it back. Also, fake names come with way heavier charges than buying drugs when you start sending money through wire. Wire fraud, anyone? Money laundering anyone?
Make certain that the clerk enters everything correctly. If you are asked to opt-out of ID and instead use a test question, then triple-check that the clerk did it properly. You don't need to be rude, but gently remind them that your cousin lost his license and won't be able to receive it if they don't opt-out of ID.
Don't act fishy. You are involved in an illegal transaction but you can still be a human and speak to the clerk about their day, about why they lock up in fant formula behind thecounter, about the fucking weather. Act natural and human. It makes things go better and doesn't make the clerk feel like picking up the phone and reporting you after you leave.
References & Reading Material
- Anabolics 11 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xllb4bjomwebjtt/11th%20Edition%20-%20William%20Llewellyn.pdf?dl=0
- Picking an AI/Gyno https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/the_estrogen_handbook
- Pin Sites and Supplies