HGH Bloodwork Guidelines

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  • Since I’m about to start adding HGH into my blast, I’m about to get some baseline bloodwork done. I’ll be getting the Serum GH and IGF-1 tests, and I’ll be doing them fasted, at a time that would be 3 hours past my planned morning HGH dose time.

    I have some questions with regard to the bloodwork protocol while on HGH, though. I’ve seen that the guidelines require you to pin 10 IU intramuscularly and get your bloods done 3 hours post-pin. However, I don’t really understand why those guidelines are in place… Let’s say I’m going to be running 8 IU per day, and I plan on pinning subcutaneously, twice a day – 4 IU at 6 AM, and 4 IU at 6 PM. Now, if I change things up on bloodwork day and pin a whole 10 IU IM, what is that really telling me? It doesn’t seem to have any bearing on my actual dosage, administration method, or anything else, for that matter. I guess I just don’t understand why I should be changing basically everything about my HGH dose for the test. Wouldn’t it make a whole lot more sense for me to simply pin my regular 4 IU dose at 6 AM, subcutaneously, and get the test done? It seems like that would give me a lot more information on what my serum GH and IGF-1 levels really are on my blast…

    Also, since I can’t seem to find any concrete information on this, what are the generally accepted increases in serum GH and IGF-1 with regard to HGH dosage? Is there a specific multiplier that I’m supposed to be looking for, like the 5X level we use for Test? Or am I just supposed to be looking for a big jump that shows that my levels are significantly higher than baseline? I’ve heard that a serum GH level of 20-27 is considered good, and I’m assuming that’s based on the “10 IU IM method,” but I have no clue what I’m supposed to be looking for with regard to IGF-1. I’d be grateful if someone with experience could steer me in the right direction here. All I can seem to find are bloodwork results with guys saying “that doesn’t seem high enough” or “that’s legit,” without really mentioning the criteria they’re looking for…

    Thanks!

  • [quote=“rippedgenesbro” pid=‘34457’ dateline=‘1545124016’]
    Since I’m about to start adding HGH into my blast, I’m about to get some baseline bloodwork done. I’ll be getting the Serum GH and IGF-1 tests, and I’ll be doing them fasted, at a time that would be 3 hours past my planned morning HGH dose time.

    I have some questions with regard to the bloodwork protocol while on HGH, though. I’ve seen that the guidelines require you to pin 10 IU intramuscularly and get your bloods done 3 hours post-pin. However, I don’t really understand why those guidelines are in place… Let’s say I’m going to be running 8 IU per day, and I plan on pinning subcutaneously, twice a day – 4 IU at 6 AM, and 4 IU at 6 PM. Now, if I change things up on bloodwork day and pin a whole 10 IU IM, what is that really telling me? It doesn’t seem to have any bearing on my actual dosage, administration method, or anything else, for that matter. I guess I just don’t understand why I should be changing basically everything about my HGH dose for the test. Wouldn’t it make a whole lot more sense for me to simply pin my regular 4 IU dose at 6 AM, subcutaneously, and get the test done? It seems like that would give me a lot more information on what my serum GH and IGF-1 levels really are on my blast…

    Also, since I can’t seem to find any concrete information on this, what are the generally accepted increases in serum GH and IGF-1 with regard to HGH dosage? Is there a specific multiplier that I’m supposed to be looking for, like the 5X level we use for Test? Or am I just supposed to be looking for a big jump that shows that my levels are significantly higher than baseline? I’ve heard that a serum GH level of 20-27 is considered good, and I’m assuming that’s based on the “10 IU IM method,” but I have no clue what I’m supposed to be looking for with regard to IGF-1. I’d be grateful if someone with experience could steer me in the right direction here. All I can seem to find are bloodwork results with guys saying “that doesn’t seem high enough” or “that’s legit,” without really mentioning the criteria they’re looking for…

    Thanks!
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    Im not really sure what your asking it seems you kind of have the answers your looking for.

    As far as gh serum test and igf run your baseline bloodwork to get a basic starting point. Gh serum test will only tell you that your gh is in fact real. The 10iu thing I believe is to keep all testing consistent, so guy 1 tests brand x 10iu guy 2 test brand y 10iu. If brand x is higher than than y they can say brand x has consistently tested higher. This is not just for you its info guys can look into for the future if they choose to add hgh to there cycle they will know which is testing better. Its just a guideline and by know means an end all be all.

    The igf 1 test is a little more tricky this will tell you how well your body is utilizing the hgh. This will vary person to person even if your using the same hgh from the same kit or lot #. Then you can make a decision from there if you want to switch brands or drop hgh all together if its not working well for you. You can also decide if you want to raise or lower your dose. Its hard to say what number you should be looking for on 8iu it will depend on the brand, how well your body utilizes it and how much your using. I would say that you would at least want your igf levels up in the 3-400 range, for decent gains but to me the higher the better. I consistently test between 600-800 depending on my dose at the time but I use at least 10iu of pharma and sometimes up to 15-16iu. I would consider myself to be a good responder to hgh . Hope this helps some.

  • [quote=“Pharmahgh” pid=‘34594’ dateline=‘1545258326’]
    Im not really sure what your asking it seems you kind of have the answers your looking for.

    As far as gh serum test and igf run your baseline bloodwork to get a basic starting point. Gh serum test will only tell you that your gh is in fact real. The 10iu thing I believe is to keep all testing consistent, so guy 1 tests brand x 10iu guy 2 test brand y 10iu. If brand x is higher than than y they can say brand x has consistently tested higher. This is not just for you its info guys can look into for the future if they choose to add hgh to there cycle they will know which is testing better. Its just a guideline and by know means an end all be all.

    The igf 1 test is a little more tricky this will tell you how well your body is utilizing the hgh. This will vary person to person even if your using the same hgh from the same kit or lot #. Then you can make a decision from there if you want to switch brands or drop hgh all together if its not working well for you. You can also decide if you want to raise or lower your dose. Its hard to say what number you should be looking for on 8iu it will depend on the brand, how well your body utilizes it and how much your using. I would say that you would at least want your igf levels up in the 3-400 range, for decent gains but to me the higher the better. I consistently test between 600-800 depending on my dose at the time but I use at least 10iu of pharma and sometimes up to 15-16iu. I would consider myself to be a good responder to hgh . Hope this helps some.
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    It does help – quite a lot, in fact. Thanks for the input! I figured that the “10 IU” standard was more for consistency and brand comparison and less for the informative value to the individual running the HGH, but I wanted to make sure… While I love providing interesting data to the community and helping others out, I think I’m going to have to stray from the bloodwork protocol on this one and get my follow-up test performed after taking my specific dosage, using my specific administration route. I simply would rather see what results I’m actually getting on my blast in this case. Perhaps later I will get another test done to show the quality of the HGH at 10 IU IM.

  • As long as s you keep your testing consistent as far as dosage and time before test it can still provide some valuable information for yourself and the rest of us. It will still show a significant increase and if you switch to a different brand can still compare results.

    However make sure to still pin it IM. The reason for this is it takes about 3hrs to circulate through your system and spike your serum levels.

    The 10iu I feel is a waste anyway. Its unrealistic to try compare your results to mine or someone elses. Honestly serum tests are a waste all together. Maybe run it once at the very beginning to make sure that the gh is at least real.

    Igf-1 is your bread and butter. There’s no real magic number or multiplier you want to see since it effects everyone differently. On average I’d say about 50-75 point increase for every 1iu. But that all depends on your baseline. I know guys that have low baselines and only get about 25-30 point increase for every iu. Only time will tell.

    For igf-1 testing there is no specific protocol to follow. Just pin your normal dose and go for bloodwork. Can be any time of day and not necessary to pin IM.

    Here’s some previous test results I have done in the past to give you an idea of what to expect.

    Baseline - .Serum…0.1…Igf-1…230
    Grey Tops - .Serum…21.8…Igf-1…385
    Ansomone - …Serum…16.0…Igf-1…480
    Black Tops - Serum…27.8…Igf-1…426
    Yellow Tops - Serum…15.8…Igf-1…415
    Zptropin …Serum…40.2…Igf-1…351
    Omnitrope-…Serum…18.0…Igf-1…271
    Supertropin…Serum…32.1…Igf-1…196
    Jintropin…Serum…35.8…Igf-1…173
    *Genotropin…Serum…6.4…Igf-1…309
    Mauve Tops… Serum…29.5…Igf-1…479

    *genotropin test was done with only 2iu

    Can see it’s much lower but still elevated above normal.

    If you are just starting to dip your toes into the hgh, may I recommend starting your dose low and working up to desired dose over a few months. Sometimes the sides can hit you like a ton of bricks if jumping the dose too high.

  • Crazy.
    I just got 17.9 after 10 iu omnitrope too.

  • Pretty sure igf1 just requires dosing the hgh for 3 to 4 weeks first. Not sure if the dose needs to be the exact same. The 10iu vial dose not required for igf1.

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